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    "speaker_name": "The Cabinet Secretary for Labour and Social Protection",
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    "content": "(Hon. (Dr.) Alfred Mutua): Thank you very much, Sen. Onyonka for your question. In terms of provision of information, we have with in our offices the payroll because it is important. I totally agree with you that we do not want ghost people being paid. We do not want people to say, “ huyu mtu analipwa, hatumfahamu ametoka wapi.” I have no problem of any Member of Parliament, asking me to give him specific information. I can give you that information so that we can double check and ensure that those people that have been listed are within your area. That can also help me identify some who have passed away and the others that have moved to other counties and are still being paid under the name of your county. On the other question that you asked, we do not have a problem giving the names of Kenyans who have gone overseas on these jobs. We have the list. Usually, what happens is that we dispatch them here. Our job is to get them the job. They go overseas and we let the diaspora know because once they get into the plane and cross the Ethiopian border going north or Tanzania border going south, they become a diaspora issue, even as we follow up. Madam Temporary Speaker, we are now keeping tabs to ensure we know where each Kenyan is and where they work. Any Kenyan who is in distress is important to us. I can also ask my senior and brother, hon. Musalia Mudavadi, to provide that information. On the issue of our responsibility to also compensate, Parliament can engage on that and bring it up so that it can also be budgeted for and monies put aside for that form of compensation by the Kenyan Government with proper research. In the meantime, we will push for them to get their rights from the USA and other areas where they should be paid. I submit."
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