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    "id": 1473869,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Turkana County, UDA",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Cecilia A. Ngitit",
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    "content": " Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker, for giving me this chance to add my voice to this discussion. I support Hon. Kamket. When we have discussions in this House about marginalisation, it is a fact. It is one issue that is still present in Kenya. If you think we lie to you, visit the north of Turkana. Visit Wajir and Garissa and then you will understand these things. There are villages where you cannot get a student who has finished Form IV. That is a fact. In that village, when a sub-chief is needed and there is no Form IV leaver, what are you supposed to do? Are you supposed to transfer a chief from another village to that village? You are not supposed to! Hon. Kamket is saying that we should be deliberate like Prof. Bartoo has said. We should adjust to the marginalisation levels. Of course, with time, we will take our people to school. We do not want to be marginalised. We found ourselves there and we are working very hard to take our people to school. However, we cannot be condemned. There are chiefs who are older than us, who have not gone to school, and they have to be respected as chiefs. We want to be considered as marginalised people, so that if our people have not attained those grades and are supposed to be chiefs, let them be chiefs in those villages. If your chiefs have degrees, well and good. Good for you. For us, we have entire villages that do not have a Form IV leaver. We are still working hard. Please give us a chance so that we can become part and parcel of Kenya. I fully support Hon. Kamket. Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker."
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