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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Seme, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. (Dr) James Nyikal",
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    "content": "Safaricom is the only one that got the request for proposal and not others. We said we would need that information later. It was not clear to us whether due diligence was done on the partners in the consortium where Safaricom was the lead, particularly Apiero, because there had been a lot of information about Apiero that we did not get and at the end of the meeting, we agreed that we would either get that or do it ourselves. The Ministry did not give us enough information on that due diligence. It was not clear to us how this money is going to be paid. When we asked the Principal Secretary, he said it is the users. This system is huge and will involve private health institutions, regulatory authorities of the health sector and health facilities in the counties, and yet it was not clear how these users will actually pay for it. We were informed that they are going to do a simulation of how this will be paid and we had not reached that level yet. With that, we were not satisfied and we are surprised that our Hon. Chairman is reading it in this House. When it comes to transition, we were sure that people were not given enough information. What Hon. Elachi was asking is: if you have NHIF and we are transiting to SHA, will you get treatment? We were told ‘yes’, but that information is not with the people. We therefore asked what was being launched. You can launch the beginning of a process, but you cannot say you have shifted and therefore people will not get that service. So, we were not satisfied. Hon. Deputy Speaker, that was one of the biggest issues we raised during the discussion on this law. We asked and they said, for the time being SHIF itself will do it. We are not sure whether that is so, because the law provided for, “may.” Those who were here may remember that we were concerned about the “may.” Therefore, Hon. Deputy Speaker, in the view of the Committee, we have not reached a conclusion about this. With that, Hon. Deputy, Speaker, I say it does not represent the views of the members of the Committee."
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