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    "id": 1480238,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Aden Duale",
    "speaker_title": "The Cabinet Secretary for Environment, Climate Change and Forestry",
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        "legal_name": "Aden Bare Duale",
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    "content": "Hon. Wanjala has a very long history in our country. We should not take that route. We should talk outside after I leave. Hon. Temporary Speaker, there is no way we can gazette a forest in a place where there is none. Take it from me. The people of Baringo should listen to me. You cannot even gazette a wetland as a forest. I am told that there are many petitions concerning my Ministry, and yet the relevant Committee is not calling upon me to respond to them. Therefore, I ask the Select Committee on Public Petitions to invite me so that I can deal with the petitions, reject those that should be rejected, and gazette those that require to be gazetted. Therefore, Hon. Kamket, the problem is not with the Executive but with the Legislature and the Select Committee on Public Petitions. There was a reason why this Committee was formed in the last Parliament. If it has been gazetted, I will re-look, review, de-gazette, and cancel it. If that is not done, I will visit Mukutani with the Chief Forest Conservator, seated right here. We have our chopper, and I will fly it over the area. I do not need to go with you. I will go with the Chief Forest Conservator, who will show me the forest. If there will be no forest, Mheshimiwa Kamket and the Leadership, there will be no forest."
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