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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Aden Duale",
    "speaker_title": "The Cabinet Secretary for Environment, Climate Change and Forestry",
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        "legal_name": "Aden Bare Duale",
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    "content": "exchange. The process is ongoing, and I will update you. I will also fast-track it. Chief Conservator, how long will it take? How many weeks? Two weeks, three weeks, or one month? We will deal with it. The issue of climate finance will build on adaptation and mitigation. We will build the adaptation capacity of our vulnerable communities, especially in the arid and semi-arid lands (ASALs). Honourable Members from the ASALs know of an organisation called the Northern Rangelands Trust (NRT). It deals with carbon markets and carbon trading. It has created conservancies in the ASALs. I have sat with them. You amended the law such that 40 per cent of the carbon credits will go to the communities. There are only two conservancies. The oldest conservancy in Garissa County is in Ijara. The Member for Ijara Constituency should sit with the NRT and ask them how the Hirola Conservancy benefitted from the billions they have received as carbon credits. Going forward with this law, 40 per cent of the carbon credits will go to the communities, which will sign a Community Development Agreement. The communities will sign something called a Community Development Agreement. Whom will they sign with? Somebody will come from America or China to your area to talk about a carbon market project. This is where the community will demand education and water, which must be 40 per cent of the proceeds. With my presence, I will make sure our people get it. Hon. Temporary Speaker, let me repeat it because what you, Member for Fafi and Member for Wajir South, have said is unacceptable. There was government failure. I have spoken even to the Cabinet Secretary for Foreign and Diaspora Affairs and the United Nations High Commission for Refugees (UNHCR). We will deal with that matter. They have a global mandate on the affairs of our people in the refugee camps. As the Kenyan Government, we have nothing against the refugees. But UNHCR, whether they like it or not, must provide an alternative source of energy to fuel wood. We need to do 60 per cent of the 15 billion tree- growing strategies of the President and Government in the dry areas, yet somebody is cutting them. Hon. Adow, Member for Wajir South, and your colleagues, led by Hon. Temporary Speaker on the Chair, I want us to go to that area. Ban the use of firewood and take it up with the international community. We will expose the UNHCR as one of the UN bodies doing the opposite of what the world is doing in the fight against climate change. Am I right, Hon. Temporary Speaker? I think I am very right."
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