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    "speaker_name": "Ms. Karua",
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        "legal_name": "Martha Wangari Karua",
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    "content": "Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, I rise in support of the Motion but I want to make it very clear that, as hon. Members and as my colleague, Ms. Shabesh, has said, let us not make this a war between certain groups within a region. This is a war between the Government and its people. It is the Government setting one group against the other for the simple reason that when the Government said that it will compensate, it talks futuristic all the time. You cannot move people into thin air. The Government must provide the alternative land immediately and then those people must move out of the forest immediately to that alternative land. It is idle to talk of compensating people but not providing the land and then setting groups of Kenyans against each other. Everybody is admitting that we have a crisis protecting our catchment areas. We needed like yesterday to have the Mau, the Aberdares, Mt. Elgon and Mt. Kenya. Those forests or catchment areas do not belong to the communities who are next to them. They are our common heritage as a nation. So let nobody speak as though he or she is speaking about himself or herself and the people around. We are talking about the nation. We are also talking about the Government lacking an approach which takes social justice into account. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, there are two issues here: The issue of environment and social justice. It is wrong for the Government to burn houses the way it did in Marakwet without having prepared where those people are going to. It will be equally wrong, even though we need the catchment areas, to move the people out of Mau, especially the poor people, without showing them where to go. Could the Government provide immediately and in a transparent manner --- I know people in the Government"
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