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    "speaker_name": "Funyula, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. (Dr) Ojiambo Oundo",
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    "content": "That is the essence of a typical business model. I agree that we need to be very clear because some years back, there was a purported struggle between some members of the Office of the President and some Commissioner somewhere on what to do with those funds to the extent that he was threatened with being fired and such kinds of things. We need clarity. I invite him, if he is an expert in this area, to talk to the Budget and Appropriations Committee so that we can direct that Fund to matters that have got immediate impact or long-term benefit to the people of Kenya. For a man who does not have food, airtime or a telephone handset is not a priority. I am always very reluctant to oppose a Member's Bill because it takes a lot of effort and the frustration we go through to get it even tabled on the Floor of the House. It makes it difficult for any Member to oppose another Member's Bill unless it is extremely unconstitutional or it is mischievous. On this, I would like to invite my colleague, Hon. Elisha, whom I am serving with for a second term, to engage with us. Those who are versed in law-making, who are interested, and who are always here even in the Committee of the whole House, we can engage the Departmental Committee on Communication, Information and Innovation so that we can panel-beat it. It means the original intention. But I am very reluctant to go the way of separating Safaricom from M-Pesa or asking Safaricom to get a banking license to run M-Pesa. That will make M-Pesa extremely expensive and ineffective. Let that innovation that was unique to Kenya thrive until such a time when the market forces bring a balance in the market. I do not want to support or oppose, but let us deal with it at the Committee of the whole House. Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker."
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