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"speaker_name": "Hon. Peter Kaluma",
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"content": " Hon. Millie, you are saying something which is very important. Public officers or State officers are paid salaries to perform their work. The work of a Member of Parliament, whether in the National Assembly or in the Senate, is representation, legislation and oversight. How does the National Assembly give Members of Parliament in the Senate, who are already earning salaries to perform their roles, including oversight, something called the Senate Oversight Fund? What would happen if they now demand a legislation fund or a representation fund? We must look into such things. I agree with you that we should not lament. Hon. Oluoch, you will be the last person to speak on this. Allow Hon. Oluoch to explain to us whether the Civil Division of the High Court can sue the Criminal Division of the High Court, and whether the courts would entertain such a suit. Why are the courts entertaining lawsuits between the two Houses of one Parliament? Do they not see any problem with that? We were recently dealing with the matter of the NG-CDF and what we saw shocked us. We had agreed on the diplomacy that we are currently talking about. When we were ready to proceed on that very last day of submissions, the Senate sent a lawyer from our own Directorate of Litigation and Compliance to say that they are opposed to the NG-CDF, and that it is unconstitutional. Even the judges were asking what the problem with Parliament was. The National Assembly sent Mr Mwendwa, the Director of Litigation and Compliance, and the Senate also sent their lawyer. All those people sit on the 5th Floor. Sometimes, you may lament about the courts, but what do you expect from the courts when one House of Parliament says that the law that Parliament passed is unconstitutional, and the other House says that it is not? Do you get what I am talking about? This is a very serious matter. Hon. Oluoch, address that issue in two minutes, and then Hon. Mboni. After that, we will be done."
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