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    "speaker_name": "Suba North, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Millie Odhiambo Mabona",
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    "content": "The other issue of concern for me is the Inter-Governmental Co-operatives Relations Technical Forum, and you can see that in that forum, we are not very clear about issues of gender inclusion, ethnic inclusion, inclusions of youth as provided in the Constitution or persons with disability. It means we can easily violate the Constitution. Again, I would want us to re-look at Clause 20. We are talking about the transport sector and other sectors, whether it would also be necessary to include fisheries under primary cooperatives. Perhaps in your response, you can explain why you thought that fisheries does not qualify to be under that. Hon. Temporary Speaker, under Clause 25, I have a problem with it especially Clause 25(f)(g) that provides that, “they shall provide a shared pool of legal services or accounting and auditing services to its affiliates”. Even though it is made subject to the Accounting Act and the Advocates Act, I am just wondering whether this does not then provide or create monopoly and can make it a subject to litigation for discriminatory practices. Under Clause 124, again on the issues of the establishment of a tribunal, in terms of the architecture, I wish this was given totally to the Judiciary or you find a framework through which the devolved units then set up that mechanism. But again, it still takes that centralised approach. The issue of inclusion of age, disability, ethnic and gender is a problem, but I am happy that you have put a cap where people can serve for up to three years, which is a good governance practice. Hon. Temporary Speaker, I think one of the things that I also like is Article 146 where the Deputy Registrar shall prepare and maintain a list of persons qualified to serve as the Co- operative Tribunal Annexed Mediators. I was earlier meeting women mediators and I think it is a very good area, but again even in this one, provide the issue of gender inclusion because women mediators or women in Alternative Dispute Resolution were saying that sometimes they are elbowed by the men in that sector. I had actually promised that I would raise it in Parliament. So,I am glad you brought it here. Finally, as my time is almost up, I want to note Clause 25 again, which provides that they shall lobby the national Government and county governments on co-operative issues. Perhaps if you could consider changing the word ‘lobby’. Lobbying is what I did when I worked in the civil society but if you are providing a statutory body, they shall advise the Government. They shall not lobby. If they want to lobby, please include the Cradle here and other human rights organisations If you are a statutory body, you advise the Government, and you do not lobby. Finally, Hon. Temporary Speaker, Hon. (Dr) Oundo spoke about the issue of public participation and I know it is something that we will grapple with when we are dealing with"
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