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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Suba South, ODM",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Caroli Omondi",
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    "content": " Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Speaker, for the opportunity. Thank you, Hon. Lillian Gogo, for bringing this matter to the Floor of the House. I agree with the other speakers that the transition has been very bad on this matter. Patients with chronic illnesses were already being served under NHIF, I wonder why they never made the full, smooth transition into SHIF. They were already covered, paying their premium and receiving the services, but, today, they are being asked to register again. This is where the biggest problem is. We would like to hear from those responsible why there was no bulk transmission of existing members who had current premiums under the previous insurance scheme. To make matters worse, even those who are enrolling today are having difficulties making the payments under the system. It is quite a challenge. You go to hospital, enrol and try to pay and it does not go through. I think the most critical thing is that the new scheme is grossly underfunded. It will not work unless the issue of funding is addressed. The data I have, and Hon. Omboko Milemba, please, forgive me for using some numbers, NHIF legacy debt is over Ksh30 billion, which has not been paid to the service providers. How will you convince them to start accepting new patients under the new system, especially the private sector hospitals? The actuarial projections were that about Ksh50 billion would be needed to start underwriting the three funds that we have created. Only Ksh6 billion of the Ksh50 billion that was required has been made available. As the Leader of the Majority Party said, 14 million members have registered, but only 700,000 have paid. I suspect that those have been captured because they are employed."
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