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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Thang’wa",
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    "content": "Thank you very much, Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir. You are the best. I was about to conclude. If you look at Clause 32, it says that- “Every person who conducts a fundraising appeal shall keep a record reflecting the income and expenditure relating to the appeal” Then, it gives details. This is an administrative burden. You are telling me that everybody who comes must write their name and say how much they have contributed. There is a clause that I do not remember, but it says that the contributor must declare the source of their income. We are scaring away the donors. We have private donors, people who want to help anonymously. Why state that we should write their names down? Now, who is going to keep this record? I was in Arusha the other day. When I talked about Harambee, I thought this happened only in Kenya. I was in Arusha last week with the Committee of Liaison, and as I was walking in the streets, a young man approached me with an exercise book that had a photo of a young guy stuck on it. He asked me to help since they had lost one of the boda boda guys. I thought this was unique to Kenya. This is an African spirit of helping one another. Now, if we restrict it so much, we will only burden, oppress and make them feel as if Kenya does not belong to them. In conclusion, there are also disproportionate penalties. The Bill states that if a state officer attends a Harambee, you will be fined about Kshs5 million or Kshs2 million, or three years in prison. It should be proportional to how much you contribute. I mean, if I contribute Kshs1,000 and you fine me Kshs5 million, are you helping me in any way? You should actually put it as if it is two or three times what you contributed in that Harambee. When we overfine or charge crimes, the crime goes up because now the police officer will be bribed. We should not create channels of corruption by trying to stop it and by trying to stop people from helping each other. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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