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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Cheruiyot",
    "speaker_title": "The Senate Majority Leader",
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        "legal_name": "Aaron Kipkirui Cheruiyot",
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    "content": "You will recall what happened last weekend. For the very first time, we were told that the Archbishop Philip Anyolo had returned donations made to his church. From quotas close to the conversation, I have seen the Governor of Nairobi City County saying that he is still awaiting his donation back. I saw him say somewhere that when he inquired because they had said they had returned the donations; he was told that the “fundi”had already cut the material for the choir uniforms because the donation was for uniforms for the choir. So, these are the challenges. These are very live conversations even in the country. Yesterday, I shared something on my Twitter page, and of course, the know-it-all who lives in that space and who never accepts to be corrected for anything did not believe what I said. Today this afternoon, I tabled the report from the Standing Committee on Labour and Social Affairs, where I stated that over 90 per cent of the respondents that sent in memoranda with regard to this Bill opposed it. Just like many colleagues here, a good number have opposed it; it is almost split evenly in the House. There are those in support of the Bill and those that oppose it in principle. Madam Temporary Speaker, we live in an interesting country. If you follow the conversation online, it is like there are two Kenyans. There is a Kenyan online. There is a Kenya, the Republic, where you and I come from. The villages where Sen. Mungatana and Sen. Lomenen come from. There are certain conversations that if you follow in the Twitter and Facebook space, the kind of things that I said there, most of the time do not exist or are not practical in the real world and the people that we represent in this House. For every village that I have visited in the last few months since this conversation began, many pastors have spoken to me. I gave the example of the African Inland Church (AIC) Ziwani, where I was two weeks ago. I was somewhere in Kipkelion West in my County of Kericho this week. The pastors continued to tell me, “please, Senate Majority Leader, you have a very bad Bill that wants stop harambees.” Like many of the colleagues that have spoken this afternoon, they are entirely misinformed. So, there are two issues; first, there is misinformation generally, because this Bill does not ban harambees. It only stops you and I, public and state officers, from presiding over. Otherwise, harambees are permitted. I saw a statement from Archbishop Jackson Olesapit and another from the Catholic Bishops telling us that the church wants to put a stop to this. That is not what preachers tell us in the villages where we come from, including in the parishes of the Catholic Church. Even as I hear what is being said by the Catholic Bishops here in Nairobi, in my own office in the village and our counties. Many of these Members here will tell you that they have cards of pending harambee invitations from the same churches, including the Catholic and Anglican churches. That is why I say that it is like there are two worlds in this country. Some space in the air, called “online”, where you are chasing unseen things, and people compete for The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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