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    "id": 1499892,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Alice Wahome",
    "speaker_title": "The Cabinet Secretary for Lands, Public Works, Housing and Urban Development",
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    "content": " Mr. Speaker, Sir, the first question is from hon. Mungatana on how far we are in regard to digitization. It is true the digitization process started in Nairobi Registry. How then does that not help the question of missing files? Before you digitize, you need the files to get the information and load it into the information management system. If you do not have the hardcopy file, then you have no information to put. So, there are still a few parcels where the files are not available. If the hard copy material of, for instance, the deed and correspondence files are not there, then you cannot have that in the system. That is the response to why I am still speaking to a missing file. Even when we have information in the system, we still reverify, since we still have the hard copies, just to avoid any mistake. However, in this particular case, we do not have any information in the information management system; that is, A rdhisasa . We also cannot get the hardcopies, but we will find them. Sometimes they disappear completely. That is why I requested support from the owner of that question, Sen. Sifuna, so that if we cannot get them, we request for information and documentation from the people interested or the owners of the property, so that we can put it in the system and gazette the reconstruction and loss of the titles. On question of general digitization, it is work in progress. Nairobi City County is at 98 per cent. We are also working in Murang’a County. We have gone live in Murang’a. We will be launching in Isiolo County soon. It is a matter of time availability. Then Mombasa County, we are at the tail end, perhaps at 80 per cent. Obviously, we have a long way to go, because you know the number of registries is more than 80. The operational ones are about 73. My Land Registrar is not here today. He had another commitment. However, I did tell this House during the vetting that I need about Kshs34 billion to digitize the entire country. The information system now is approximately in five counties in terms of digitization. The hardest stations are Nairobi, Mombasa, Kisumu, Nakuru, Kiambu and Murang’a counties. Those are the areas where land titling has already happened. So, we still need a lot of time and money. I had said if I got the budget within four years, we can finish. So that is where we are. There was a question on Katelembu from my good friend, hon. Senator Kavindu."
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