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    "id": 1499936,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1499936/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Alice Wahome",
    "speaker_title": "The Cabinet Secretary for Lands, Public Works, Housing and Urban Development",
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    "content": "information management system, especially the vulnerable because they might probably not have the phones or gadgets required. Every change has its own challenges. We have already agreed that we are digitizing. We are looking at the larger evil that we are trying to curb, which is theft of land, security for land tenure, securing land rights and the loss of titles. If you take that against Kenyans who are not literate, you will find that the bigger problem will be addressed by digitizing. We can then have a conversation on how we will help the vulnerable. Is it through the Ministry that we shall have a department to help the vulnerable? If anybody goes to any registry today, they will get help, irrespective of whether you are supposed to interact with the information management system or not. That is what we should intensify. Administratively, my Ministry will look into that. You have raised an important issue. The reason we are digitizing is to enable easy and effective access to land records. On the question on corruption in the LCB and members of the boards, maybe you would have helped me better if you possibly gave me the specific land board. The Cabinet Secretary has authority to de-gazette a board if we feel corruption is a challenge. Give me a specific Land Control Board and I will de-gazette it tomorrow. I do not know why people have extra money to give for corrupt purposes. You do not need to give any money---"
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