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    "id": 1506747,
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    "speaker_name": "Kikuyu, UDA",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Kimani Ichung’wah",
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    "content": "I hear a Member saying that the Ethics and Anti- Corruption Commission (EACC is headed by a Bishop; a good Bishop for that matter. I wish him well. All those societal challenges are challenges that we must address together as political leaders and religious leaders not just from the church, but even from our Muslim leaders. I want to ask our leadership to work together. We cannot deal with the issues that I have seen, like femicide and the challenges with our children, without working together. If there is moral decadence, it begins from our schools. Many of our schools, including public schools, are sponsored by the churches. We have made effort for numerous public schools to be under the sponsorship of churches or under the chaplaincy of churches. However, that is where the rain began beating us. The reason why we see men doing those kinds of bad things that they are doing to young girls is because we have lost something in our moral upbringing not just as men, but as a society. That is supposed to be the work of the church. Where is the church? I do not see the church confronting those issues. The church is now more into politics than anything else. We welcome them to politics. In fact, this House that they are admonishing has elected bishops and reverends and other Members like Hon. Bishop Kosgei who are nominated. Hon. Canon Naomi of the Anglican Church is the Majority Deputy Whip who whips Members to come and vote for Bills because that is what we were elected to do. With tremendous respect, I want to tell our church leaders that when they point a finger at a leader, they should look at the other four fingers that are pointing towards them. When they admonish corruption, they should not just talk about the fight against it, but practise it. It cannot be that when I am a business person – I am still a business person – my money is not corrupt but, when I am elected as a member of parliament, it becomes corrupt money. It cannot be. It is so interesting that church leaders are now choosing which political leaders to speak to, who to receive money from, who they like and who they do not like, and which political party they like and which one they do not. I call for mutual respect. Because I am a practising Christian, I will live according to the Bible. I can read the Bible and interpret it. I know what the Bible tells me about giving. I know what the Bible tells me about respect for church leaders. I will respect them. However, I also expect them to respect those in authority. With those many remarks, let me thank Hon. Junet for having raised this matter."
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