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    "id": 1507218,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1507218/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Olekina",
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    "speaker": {
        "id": 407,
        "legal_name": "Ledama Olekina",
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    "content": "How do you work? Sen. Cheruiyot has said that the retirement age should be not less than 50. In other jurisdictions, people do not even talk about retirement because the older you get, the wiser you become. However, in this country that we live in, because of the demand for jobs, people are encouraged to take early retirement. They are encouraged to go home and do something else to give room to the younger generation to take up positions. The important thing is for us to find a way of not over-legislating. That has always been one of my biggest pet peeves. Sometimes I feel like we over-legislate. We create jobs for people but then there is indiscipline in the management of these pension funds. Some people sell their cows and mortgage their houses to come to the National treasury to follow their pension. Every so often you find people walking around there. There is a gentleman called Peter Karanja. Peter Karanja one day met me at a Kenya Commercial Bank (KCB). He told me that he needed to speak to Mr. Kilii because of his pension. Every single day, Mr. Karanja calls me, I connect them with Kilii, but he is still complaining that his money has not been paid. This is a man who is over 80 years old and he has got his calculation properly. The Majority Leader, what I wanted you to include in this Bill is to clearly put a mechanism whereby if a staff of the county assembly retires today, which is December 3rd, by January 3rd, when he is supposed to be getting a salary, he can be able to draw down on his pension. However, right now, you cannot really say we have anything like that. Consequently, with all these pension schemes, we are going to fight them now. I can guarantee you we are going to pursue them and demand audits on how they spend their money. Most of them are now busy building apartment complexes and buying assets all over. This also includes looking at how much county government owes them in penalties and interest, so that they can go and negotiate on what they are now calling asset swaps. I would like to beseech my dear colleague, the Majority Leader, to be able to bar any sort of interest when it comes to remunerations or deductions not having been forwarded. This is a cycle. I do not believe that county governors intentionally decide not to remit the deductions. The truth of the matter is, because sometimes money is delayed from the exchequer to the accounts. This is a Human Resource (HR) process where you know this is your gross salary and these are your deductions, so it is done. Most of the time people's salaries delays. Sometimes even we ourselves in this Parliament delay getting our salaries and sometimes our staffs do not even get their salary until two weeks. That is a reality. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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