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    "content": "(Prof. Saitoti): Thank you, Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker. First of all, there was a clarification sought as to whether, indeed, the criminal organized gangs are in collusion with the Executive. I would like to state that, that is not the case. There can be no way in which the Executive can collude with a gang that is terrorizing people! Nevertheless, Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, in the event that there is an hon. Member who is in possession of information of an individual in the Executive who is in collusion with those particular organized groups or any other for that matter, we will appreciate to get that information and act accordingly. Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, I said that the information that is available to me and to my Ministry is that the vigilante groups killed 26 people. That happened within a very short time. It happened in retaliation of the atrocities that had been committed by the Mungiki against the innocent people of Kirinyaga and, in the process, as I have stated clearly, a number of suspects have already been arrested by the police and they are being examined, investigated and if they are found guilty, naturally, action will be taken against them. Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, on the issue as to whether the police considers every young man in Central Province to be a Mungiki, I would like to state as follows:- The Government position and policy is that no one is guilty--- And I am sure that the hon. Member for Kirinyaga knows that. No one is guilty until proved guilty! We have sent out strict instructions---"
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