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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Alfred Mutua",
    "speaker_title": "The Cabinet Secretary for Labour and Social Protection",
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    "content": "laws and the principles--- Most of the people who are taken overseas have Form Four certificates and university degrees and they can do due diligence. We are encouraging them to do so. Thank you, Sen. Nyutu for your question on the issue about Saudi. It is very good to clarify here that in Saudi Arabia, we have Kenyans who are doctors, nurses, teachers, drivers, ICT experts, in the hospitality industry and working in a variety of jobs, including in the Government of Saudi Arabia. The issue we have heard of Saudi Arabia are issues of people working in homes. We cannot say that it is Kenyans working there. It is a segment where we have had this small issue of people working in homes. That is why we have had the new Bilateral Labour Migration Agreements (BLMA). The Saudi Arabians have appointed somebody to deal with those issues to respond to some of those challenges in homes, so that people are well protected. The issue of Europe and Canada jobs is the fact that people are taken to jobs according to available positions from the demands that are given. The difference is this; if you are going to work in Saudi Arabia, Qatar or these countries, the amount of money you need to pay your agency here is little. Simply because a lot of the monies are given over there for your ticket and other things. Even though they are not given in the United Arab Emirates (UAE), it is low cost and it is just here. If you go to Australia, for example, to work, the average money that you need to pay upfront, even for the visa and everything else, is about Kshs700,000 to a million. The jobs are there, but the amount of money you need to go to Germany or Poland is Kshs700,000. That is why you see many Kenyans can afford going to countries. However, the positions are there and open to all Kenyans. They are not set for any community at all. Sen. Osotsi, the good Senator from Vihiga County, you gave an explanation of a person who has passed away. I am not aware of that. I will investigate and find out the cause of death of this person. You said they were murdered. We will find out. Murder is a police case. It means that someone committed the murder and need to be arrested. Were investigations done? Is it murder? Where were they murdered? Where were they at the time of murder? Were they still working? So, I will find out. Mr. Speaker, Sir, it is also good to designate roles here. I am the Cabinet Secretary for Labour and Social Protection. I deal with Kenyans when here before going overseas and I monitor how they are doing. However, the work of repatriating Kenyans when overseas is for the State Department of the Diaspora Affairs under the Ministry of Foreign and Diaspora Affairs. That is where the embassies come in. We work as a team and collaborate. Some of the issues you are asking about the ambassadors would rather be asked to the Cabinet Secretary in charge of the Ministry of Foreign and Diaspora Affairs."
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