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    "id": 1525832,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Mbadi",
    "speaker_title": "The Cabinet Secretary for National Treasury and Economic Planning",
    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "John Mbadi Ng'ong'o",
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    "content": "I am yet to see where power has been given to the President to give authority for payment that is not anchored in law. I would advise that if the President initiates through the Executive a legislative proposal, which would now give me the legal basis upon which this payment can be made, I will obey. On the question by Sen. Olekina, Senator of Narok County, which was in Kiswahili, but I will translate it into English was, since when did we agree that an agreement by three Cabinet Secretaries be changed? Did we start? In fact, it was in Kiswahili, but I have tried to translate it into English. That an agreement by the three Cabinet Secretaries be changed. I am not changing the task force report. What I am saying is that the taskforce report has made recommendations. Those recommendations now should be anchored in law to allow me to make payments to former councillors. When did this change? It has not changed. The task force recommendation still stands. However, we have to now actualise it. Did Prof. Njuguna Ndung’u speak to the Attorney-General (AG) before coming before the Senate? I wish I knew. I have not consulted him to know whether he did. However, I thought he must have consulted because for the AG to give an opinion on 8th of May, 2023, it must have been sought from the National Treasury. The Cabinet Secretary then was Prof. Njuguna Ndung’u. So, I am very sure he must have in one way communicated with the AG. On the Inua Jamii, I was not saying that we pay the former councillors this pension or honorarium through the Inua Jamii programme. What I mentioned is, we are working with the line ministry to make sure that these former councillors who deserve to be enrolled under the Inua Jamii programme, are enrolled in the normal way to get support like any other qualified Kenyans, including those who have not served as councillors. Thank you."
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