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    "id": 15463,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Mr. I.E. Mohamed",
    "speaker_title": "The Minister of State for Development of Northern Kenya and other Arid Lands",
    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Mohamed Ibrahim Elmi",
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    "content": "Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, the speaker before me talked about corruption, and I would really like to say that there should be a very good training on corruption in this proposed Kenya School of Government. This is because I have seen corruption happening in this House in a very general way, and I am really thinking about its effects. Corruption must be given definition and its boundaries. When you want to fight it, you must give it a face and it must be fought from a moral background. You cannot have people using it as ping pong, where everybody just whispers about it without any clear method of fighting it. You cannot use unethical methods to accuse people of corruption, and expect to finish corruption. You cannot be unjust and finish corruption. I agree with the previous speaker that it has to be part of the training. You cannot have adults doing all the wrong things, and then expect that when they are already old and working, they will know that this is actually wrong."
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