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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Mungatana, MGH",
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    "content": "clinical officers, and lab technicians. Bring them. There are insurance players; let people talk and agree on these regulations. You do not sit in your offices and publish regulations without doing public participation. I am not just talking about at the national level, but even at the county level. For example, the County Executive Officers (CEO) in Tana River County, when they are passing regulations that are going to affect people in the market, even after the county assembly has passed the County Finance Bill; they must sit down with business people to agree on the charges. How much are we going to charge for mangoes? What about the fish? Why should Lamu County be charging so much less than Tana River County when we are just next to each other on the sea? Then you sit in the office and you are only thinking about the money. You have not talked to the fishermen or the beach management units. You have not consulted with even the potential markets and then you drive all the business to the next county because you are not consulting. You sit in your offices and make regulations that do not make sense, regulations that end up killing business within the county. It has become so expensive to transport produce out of the county into the market as opposed to neighbouring counties in Tana River County because the ministers do not sit down with stakeholders; they do not sit down with the farmers; they do not sit down with the markets; they do not sit down with the lorry transporters. Public participation has been ignored not just at the national level but even at the county level. The County Executive Committee Members (CECMs) are assuming that because they have these powers they can do anything to the people because the law has been passed by the county assembly or it has been passed by the Senate and they want to make the regulations and then they make ridiculous regulations. Then they start playing cat and mouse games with delegated legislation committees of both Houses at the National Assembly and the Senate and even at the county levels. Sometimes, they try to manipulate, especially at the county level so that people are then robbed of the benefit of public participation. So, as we discuss this Statutory Amendment Bill, it is good information to the Cabinet Secretaries who are listening to me and to CECMs who are sitting, maybe listening to me that you must do public participation before you carry out regulation- making decisions. Secondly, there must be a regulation impact report. This regulation impact assessment report must accompany a report of public participation. This is why the Delegated Legislation Committees scrutinize whether you have misused those powers that were donated to you by the assembly or you have utilized those powers properly. It is very logical if you say that from today, you are going to only allow 20 kilogrammes to be packed as maize bags as opposed to the normal 50 kilogrammes, you must know that the market is going to be affected by those regulations. You must know that the customers who are used to trading in a certain way and are used to these packages; they are they are going to be affected by those new regulations. You must surely know that the people who buy the people who sell, even those guys who carry"
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