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    "id": 1550,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1550/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Mr. Orengo",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Aggrey James Orengo",
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    "content": "We have an ongoing programme of trying to computerize certain registries like Kisumu, Thika and Mombasa and some of the busy registries. So long as we have to deal with manual records where registration and transactions require human intervention--- If that continues to be the obtaining situation, it is going to be very difficult to deal with land problems and fraud in the land sector. I want to assure Mr. Olago that we are going to have a land registry in Kisumu that is computerized. Short of that, Dr. Otichillo will tell you - because he has worked with us closely on this matter - that even if the Pope was the Commission of Lands, the problems will still occur. Even if we had all the bishops in this country employed as land registrars, we will still have those problems. That is because we have a situation where religious organizations have grabbed land. When you want to recover it, they invoke the name of God. In that kind of situation, what can we do?"
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