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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Olekina",
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        "legal_name": "Ledama Olekina",
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    "content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, Sen. Abass is my colleague and so when he informs me, I have to take it seriously. However, one thing that worries me, and this is one of the things that I am trying to bring to the attention of this House, is that when we have the two county assemblies operating in one county - and this one says it is a county assembly - it is illegal. So, really, we have to look at it this way: The Speaker of this House sits on that Chair, having been elected by the Members of this House. So, if the Members of this House decide to forcefully remove a Speaker, how can the Clerk of the Assembly go ahead and gazette another county assembly? This is a matter that the Committee on Devolution and Intergovernmental Relations should not tolerate, those gazette notices. Sittings of county assemblies and sittings of the Senate must be held in a venue which is recognized. Remember, we passed budgets of county assemblies for them to build their headquarters. So, then, how do we continue saying we need to collect more money to support those counties, yet people are going to sit under a tree to conduct their proceedings? This is something that we really should be very careful about otherwise, tomorrow, some of us might decide that we are not happy with the Speaker, we forcefully remove him there and then we have a separate sitting and divide this House. Come on, it does not work like that. So, these are two very important issues that we must address as a Senate of the Republic of Kenya. The issue of Isiolo County is something very important, and all of us must remember that when we are given responsibilities, chief officers are tasked with the fiduciary responsibility. Now, who is responsible in that county any more? The chief officers are the ones who deal with the day-to-day operations. If you talk about CECs, those are political appointees. Those are people to guide on terms of policy, but then, who implements that? A chief officer is like a Principal Secretary. So, these are things that we need to be very serious about. Other agencies, even the Attorney-General's Office and the National Treasury, must also be aware of the fact that there is a problem in Isiolo County. Deal with it. Let us deal with it. There is a problem in Nyamira County. If we keep sitting here and our committees do not take the matter seriously, then, of course, we will be making a fool of ourselves. I will end by reminding our colleagues that we are the House of union. All these problems that we are facing as a country, even the issues about drama and students, the role that we should take is that we should attempt to unite those agencies that are fighting. Those students are our children. If we unite those children and also try not to expose our children to controversial things, we have to remember that we are here and whatever we do, our children are learning. Let us be good teachers. I thank you. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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