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    "id": 1553248,
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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Orwoba",
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    "content": "matter that concerns us. As I have said before in this House, today it might be Nyamira County, but tomorrow, it might be the county that you are representing here. I have been listening to the Chairperson of the Committee in charge of Devolution and Intergovernmental Relations as he gave this report and informed the House on matters Nyamira. I want to throw in my words in terms of a point of information. I come from Kisii County. We are neighbours with Nyamira County. We always joke that when Nyamira County grows up, they will become Kisii County. So, we are closely following what is happening there. I am always of the opinion that if there is one committee that should be resourced and supported 150 per cent by this House, it is the Committee on Devolution and Intergovernmental Relations. Before we have all these disputes of whether it is a Speaker, a governor or a deputy governor being impeached, I always ask what has the Committee on Devolution and Intergovernmental Relations done? We were hearing rumours of all sorts of things happening in Nyamira County because there is a lot of craziness down there. I always ask: Where is the Committee on Devolution and Intergovernmental Relations in this? Are they sitting in Bunge Tower conducting meetings or have they decided to go to Nyamira County to understand the situation as it is? If there are two sections of the county assembly, how did that even happen? To sit here and be informed that there is a Clerk of a County Assembly that has put out a gazette notice and it is now contradicting whatever it is that we are defending here as devolution? I have been on record talking about rogue agents in the county assemblies and in both our Houses; the National Assembly and the Senate. It is just now creeping into the county assemblies where now you have people who feel that they have more control over the stipulated procedures of the county assembly. I think as much as the Chairperson of the Committee on Devolution and Intergovernmental Relations has come here to give us the report and to inform us on what is happening, I suggest this Committee be giving us monthly updates on what is going on in these county assemblies. I have heard Sen. Dullo repeatedly bring statement after statement on how their governor is unavailable. Nobody knows where the Governor of Isiolo County is. This Governor has been summoned to appear before different committees, but has never appeared. How can this Committee on Devolution and Intergovernmental be empowered further so that some of the problems we are seeing in the county assemblies are dealt with? As my Chairperson of the Committee on Labour and Social Welfare stood, he tried to give some information to the Chairperson of the Senate Committee on Devolution and Intergovernmental Relations. Today, I learnt something very important when we were executing a petition in the Committee on Labour and Social Welfare. One of the senior legal counsel who was entangled in that petition was trying to argue that we cannot dispense a matter in the committee that is active in court. I learnt that under Standing Order No.98 of the Senate Standing Orders, if the matter touches on human rights and the public interest, it can be prosecuted at the committee level without prejudicing ongoing court proceedings. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Director, Hansard and AudioServices, Senate."
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