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    "speaker_name": "Mr. Michuki",
    "speaker_title": "The Minister for Environment and Mineral Resources",
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        "legal_name": "John Njoroge Michuki",
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    "content": " Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, I rise to support this Motion because it is a Motion whose background, as read out here by the Chair of the Joint Committee and supported by the Vice-Chairman, gives fairly a good background on the amount of the work that the Committee has put into ascertaining the truth of this matter. The approach adopted by the Committee, and in particular their outlook regarding the circumstances, is very mature and noble. Since we know these matters, it would be wrong for any one of us to pretend that there can never be mistakes because, as it is universally known, to err is human. Added to that human error, we are now at the age where we have to use technology. We buy systems, whether we understand them or not, which have been devised by people to keep their devices secret. They do not want their knowledge to be known by anybody else. They will come and sell us those systems with the assurance that when it is triggered, it will perform what we want. I think we have had this in our Treasury where information technology has taken over. As this case will show, the technology can also go wrong. In my opinion, gathering from what I heard, that is what has happened. I support the recommendations of the Committee, although I have a little misgiving as to whether we should throw good money after bad money. The audit arises under circumstances which--- What I am trying to say is that we have confidence in the Committee. They have done a very good job. Why do they want an audit which would imply that they are not confident about what they did? Let us spare that money and trust the Committee, which is free any time to look at the figures."
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