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    "content": "Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, I heard one of my colleagues saying that we should not carry out an independent audit because it will cost a lot of money. But I want to assure the hon. Member that the integrity of the budget making process is at stake in this country as we speak. To restore the public confidence, we need a forensic audit to determine that nothing was done deliberately. I want to propose that if you want to engage independent forensic auditors--- They are very few in this country. I want to ask the Controller and Auditor-General, when he or she is appointing a forensic auditor, for heavens sake, let he or she not think about KPMG! That is because KPMG, as a firm, has really failed many Government departments in this country. We have two other reputed audit firms – PriceWaterHouseCoopers and Deloitte & Touché. So, Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, I would recommend that if we have to carry out a forensic audit, let us go with a reliable firm. Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, I heard my colleagues talk about politics. Where does politics come in? If I were the Minister for Finance, the moment this issue was raised, I would have, first of all, gone back to the Treasury, consulted and got facts right, before I came to the House to disparage the submissions that were brought to us by an hon. Member. I must thank Mr. Imanyara. We, as a House, stand guilty of this offence of passing a budget with mistakes. At the end of the day, whether those mistakes were genuine or committed by acts of commission or omission, they are still mistakes. We should not pass a budget with mistakes. I do not know why people are quick at making others believe that we, as leaders of this country, cannot talk about these things. If Kshs10 billion is a lot of money, we must say so. If we are not satisfied with the reasons that we are given, we must say so. If someone is talking of a computer error and you believe it is not, you must say so. Nobody should muzzle us. In fact, we really fought hard for freedom of speech in this country. I do not think it is right to come here and purport to be more Kenyan than other Kenyans. We are all Kenyans. When I speak, who tells you I am speaking for somebody? I am not speaking for somebody. I am only speaking on behalf of the people who elected me to this Parliament. The Gwassi people want to know whether the Kshs10 billion was a deliberate attempt to defraud the Kenyan public, including them, of money. Was it a mistake? So when I talk about it in funerals, do not complain about it because I must also talk in funerals. That is"
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