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    "id": 1562680,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1562680/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Jullius Migos Ogamba",
    "speaker_title": "The Cabinet Secretary for Education",
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    "content": "been in that institution for nine years for courses that were supposed to take six years. Therefore, those students had lost three years in that university. When there was a strike, we came up with a package to resolve the issues of Moi University. We also came up with a package to resolve the problem of those medical students. Their problem related to training in the referral hospitals. We came up with a programme where they expanded it from Moi Teaching and Training Referral Hospital to Iten Hospital. That now provides opportunity for more students to train. That initiative enabled us to graduate those students in March this year. The first students graduated on 28th November last year, but the medical students and the other batch that had remained behind graduated in March this year. When we come up with a programme to ensure that the strike is resolved, we also work towards coming up with a programme on how the students who have suffered will meet their lecture time so that they can graduate. We, as Kenyans, need to also agree that we need to resolve the problems early. One of the problems we discovered is that most academic strikes arise out of the CBA. We found out that CBAs are negotiated at the end of their lifespan. When you do so, it simply means you have not budgeted for it, there is no predictability and you are not aware of what was required. We have now insisted that going forward, the CBAs should be negotiated at the beginning of their lifespan. With that, we will know the amount of money that we will need. That way, we can budget or plan for it. I am glad to note that they are already negotiating the CBA for 2025/2029 as I speak. We will then be able to factor it in our next budgets to ensure that the teachers know or the lecturers know what they require. That is how we are trying to resolve this space and it is a multi-pronged approach. We have to deal with it because the students who are in these universities are our students. If we do not do something about them, they suffer. As we indicated, almost 23 of our universities were technically insolvent. If we carried through the insolvency and said these ones are dead, let them go, we would be having a number of our students not having spaces to go. So, we had to make a hard decision on what we need to do so as to keep those universities floating for our students to get their education and graduate."
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