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    "speaker_name": "Kilgoris, KANU",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Julius Sunkuli",
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    "content": " Thank you, Hon. Temporary Speaker. The Chairperson has said in his response that police officers can use commensurate force. How did it become necessary to use guns? Did these people have guns? How did they become targets of bullets, yet they were either armed in a lesser manner or at least they were not armed with guns? That is not commensurate force. The Chairperson must go back and ask the Cabinet Secretary to explain that. The second thing the Chairperson should tell us is who gave instructions for people to be shot dead. Somebody must have done so. If nobody did so, is the Chairman telling us today that we will never know who shot these people? Our concern is that we want to know who shot these people. If we know that, then criminal action should be taken to apprehend them. If the police officers have been transferred, can we be told where they have gone so that we can tell the people of those areas to be alert that they are killers? Hon. Temporary Speaker, with your permission, I would like to invite the Chairman to look you in the eye and confirm that Mr Jubat, the Deputy County Commissioner of Trans Mara South, has left that station. If it is true that he was transferred, can you stand and proclaim the name of the DCC who was brought to take over from him? He says it is only the handing over that is awaiting. Who is he supposed to hand over to? What is the name? Can he confirm that the DCC was chairing a Lands Control Board meeting just the other day? Hon. Chairman, this raises a serious issue because we know your integrity, but you have been made to read a statement that is not true. Those officers are well seated there, and we do not understand why. We do not hate them. I have nothing against them, but how can a whole Government stand up and say that the DCC has been transferred knowing very well that he has not been transferred? Just tell us he has not been transferred, and we will live our lives as usual. Lastly, I know that IPOA has been told to go there. Does the Chairman know?"
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