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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Kisang",
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    "content": "(d) the need to ensure that county governments are able to perform the functions allocated to them; (e) the fiscal capacity and efficiency of county governments; (f) developmental and other needs of counties; Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, this Article is clear that we need to take care of counties and ensure there is equitable development. I have just said that for the last 13 years, 11 counties have been paying salaries. We are saying that because of the opportunity that has arisen as a result of the Fourth Basis of the formula, we should speak and talk to each other. Let us canvass and reason together. The Bible is clear that when you come together and reason together, things will change. We would like to convince our colleagues from the four counties that Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale talked about. He listed Nairobi, Kiambu, Kakamega and Nakuru counties as getting close to Kshs15 billion each, every year. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, we are saying that Elgeyo-Marakwet County started with about Kshs2.7 billion. In this current financial year, we are getting Kshs4.8 billion and the functions that were transferred to Elgeyo-Marakwet County are the same functions these other counties are getting. If it is CECMs, we all have 10 or 12 CECMs. The same applies to chief officers. We also have the same number of hospitals. In this formula, we are in agreement with what the Committee has proposed on the first Kshs387.25, so that no county loses and they get what they have always gotten. We are happy and comfortable with that proposal. Then we are also asking, can we do affirmative action to ensure the 11 counties move towards Kshs6 billion? As a result of the kamukunji in the morning, the Committee proposed Kshs2 billion. We are saying that we should improve the Kshs2 billion that has been proposed as a result of the kamukunji in the morning. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, can we put it up to Kshs4.5 billion although our desire is Kshs6.7 billion? Then all the counties, apart from Lamu will be at a minimum of Kshs6 billion and then Lamu moves from about Kshs2.7 billion to about Kshs5 billion. We are, therefore, asking if we can look at the affirmative action of Kshs2 billion for the 11 counties and improve it. Even if we do not go to Kshs6.7 billion, we should agree and have a middle ground, like Kshs4.7 billion. This is so that, before we share the amount that is above Kshs387 billion, each of the smaller 11 counties gets a minimum of Kshs500 million. From there, we subject the formula to anything above what we had agreed on. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, Sen. Osotsi has just talked about 35 per cent. When you tell us that we are sharing using equal share of 35 per cent, that equal share of 35 per cent is not based on the entire. It is based on anything above Kshs387 million. So, it is basically either it is Kshs17 billion or Kshs30 billion, where we will have equal share of that five per cent and also population still at 45 million people. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, it is basically still an advantage to the bigger counties. This is something that we need to reason together because this money is not going to any one of us; it is going to our people. If you reside in Nairobi or you are"
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