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    "id": 1570367,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. (Prof.) Kamar",
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    "content": "If we had Kshs465 billion, the debate would not be here because everybody would have jumped in billions. However, now that we have restricted ourselves to the minimum increment that we have been given, we still need to have this conversation with the National Assembly at some point because it is like they have never understood what devolution is all about. No wonder we are still fighting over who supports and who does not support the NG-CDF. The national Government has the right to devolve its money and resources to the lowest unit, but while they are doing that, that is not money that belongs to the devolved units. We want the money that belongs to the devolved units according to the Constitution, so that we can develop the agendas that were devolved. Madam Temporary Speaker, I was not going to say a lot because most of my colleagues have said most of the things that are here. However, I want to emphasize that there is need for unity in this House. Let us negotiate and let us finish the way we did with the Third Formula. Let us negotiate and move to together to ensure we are looking for money that has been touched since devolution came, so that we move forward with devolution. Devolution is one thing that Kenyans are not going to take a risk in diminishing. Since this is the only avenue for Kenyans to develop, we must all be together."
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