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    "id": 1571030,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/1571030/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Emurua Dikirr, UDA",
    "speaker_title": "Hon. Johana Kipyegon",
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    "content": "People would have no problem if all those roads were expanded and tolled. If we do not have money to dual the roads, especially the ones from Mombasa to Nairobi and Nairobi to Malaba, we can do Public Private Partnerships (PPPs) and toll the roads. People would prefer to travel for just two hours from Mombasa to Nairobi instead of over six hours or the whole day because the traffic on those roads does not allow them to arrive in Nairobi on time. The traffic in Nairobi is also at another level. Therefore, if we can partner with other countries or serious investors, we can construct underground trains in Nairobi and de-congest traffic. We can also introduce tramps and toll them. We can do many things without necessarily borrowing money and overtaxing our citizens to achieve whatever we want. We can also partner with other countries and investors to meet our goals. I fully support this proposal to dual our roads. Let us partner with investors, dual the roads and toll them. We can also construct underground trains in Nairobi, Mombasa and Kisumu and toll them. I was in the Public Investments Committee with my good friend, Mhe . Aden, who was the Chairman. When the Standard Gauge Railway (SGR) was being constructed, we went from Nairobi to Mombasa. We were shocked by the amount of money that was spent on the SGR, which would have been enough to construct a dual rail and an electric train. The kickbacks demanded when doing such big projects slow down our country’s development. If we had constructed a proper dual electric rail from Mombasa to Malaba, we would have eased traffic. We can still do that without necessarily borrowing or taxing Kenyans. We can do it through PPPs, partner with investors and toll the roads. After all, nobody travels on those trains without paying. The payment can be split in half between the investor and the country. Therefore, if the Departmental Committee on Transport and infrastructure pays serious attention to this Motion and works on it, our country’s infrastructure can prosper without overtaxing the citizens."
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