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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Mungatana, MGH",
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    "content": "from the Senate side, Sen. Ali Roba, for leading the team from the Senate, I included, into this negotiation and in a very efficacious manner. I would like to recognize the efforts and the aptitude that was put in from our colleagues in the National Assembly. I acknowledge the work that we put in in all those four meetings. As a spectator when watching a football or basketball match, it is always easy to say the ball should have moved this side or they should have scored that goal. However, it is only the person playing inside there who knows what really happens. All the time the spectator who is outside believes that they would have done better or the player should have done better. The truth of the matter is that when you are inside there, that is when you know how difficult the matters are, how hard and how tired the players are. You need to be a basketball player to know that even LeBron James can ask for substitution. Even who we called King James in basketball would ask for substitution because he is the one who knew how it was inside there. Mr. Speaker, Sir, when we went for the first meeting, the Senate was very adamant that we must be given the Kshs465 billion that we wanted. On the other hand, we had the National Assembly who had come with a figure of Kshs405.1 billion. We had extremely good arguments to say how we needed this money for this and the counties needed to do this or the other. All of us came from these counties that were fighting for this money. Equally, the National Assembly was telling us of the need to balance what the counties required with the fiscal space that was available. We negotiated at lengthy and greed on Kshs410 billion that the National Assembly gave. We on the side of the Senate had come to a point where we said, at the very minimal, it is should be Kshs420 billion. Mr. Speaker, Sir, there was a deadlock. The Senate is on this side and the National Assembly on the other side. We were trying to reach an understanding. At the end of it, after three meetings, we had to adjourn, discuss and talk as colleagues, visit each other and convince each other. We would like to tell our colleagues that those of us who were in there, were going up and down trying to find a way forward. When the figure was finally agreed on at Kshs415 billion, it did not come easy, like a drop of the rain. There was a lot of negotiation and backroom discussions. Mr. Speaker, Sir, we were also aware that our counties needed this money like yesterday. In"
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