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    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/166445/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Mr. Kajwang",
    "speaker_title": "The Minister of State for Immigration and Registration of Persons",
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        "legal_name": "Gerald Otieno Kajwang",
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    "content": "Lastly, I want to talk about non-citizens. I have already told you that I come from a minority called Suba. If five people came before me and one of them met the basic standard, but he is a Suba and I know that there is no Suba judge, how do you expect me to behave? If it is a matter of giving marks, suppose I might give him more. If it is about asking questions, I suppose I might ask him less dangerous questions. These are natural things that happen everyday. That is why we felt this is such a serious matter and somebody will lose a job and the community will lose a judge. It is not a joke. Of course, Kenyans are qualified. But this thing is not about qualifications. These judges are qualified. They are in office because they are qualified judges. The problem is confidence. That is why we are bringing non-Kenyans who can be deal with this matter without any impartiality and being a relative of anybody. Somebody must have a relative somewhere. This is normal because people feel that it is about their relatives and regions."
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