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    "id": 166480,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/166480/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Mr. Oyongo Nyamweya",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Manson Oyongo Nyamweya",
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    "content": "Therefore, I would appeal to the two principals to bring sanity to the Government. I also want to tell the Minister for Justice, National Cohesion and Constitutional that, for the sake of this nation--- When he brings these kinds of Bills, what message is he sending out? As far as I am concerned, the problem we have is not a creation of the judiciary itself. It is caused by those who appointed the men and women who are there. Some of them have done a good job, and some of them have done a very bad job. But also look at how they work. Look at how the magistrates work. Look at the remuneration that they get. Let us be truthful to each other as a nation. A magistrate is paid Kshs25,000, yet he or she is supposed to have a car, live in a good house and pay school fees. How do we expect them to afford a car and pay school fees, yet we know they only earn Kshs25,000? This has happened since Independence. Why are we not being honest and saying that these people are underpaid? Let us put in place structures which are clear. If we are going to have judges who are worth working for this nation, let them work. It is an opportunity cost. How can you attract well qualified men and women to be in the judiciary? If they have successful careers as lawyers or advocates, they will not join the judiciary. What is required is that there should be good remuneration. They have security of tenure but what is critical is that I plead for the nation to be sincere. Let us stop engaging in political games. If a decision is made, my group has won or has lost. We are Kenyans and there are no groups here. We want a judiciary which we can all trust."
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