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    "speaker_name": "Mr. Mwatela",
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        "legal_name": "Andrew Calist Mwatela",
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    "content": "Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, you realize that the ESP programme came up as a measure to mitigate certain circumstances in the economy of the country. The Ministry was not given much choice by the Ministry of Finance. We were given the progamme to start tree planting in schools. Yes, there was some training that was undertaken, particularly in the establishment of nurseries. But as I said, the issue of ownership where communities were to be involved, I think, did not take place. This is unfortunate because tree planting is such a major thing. It is not something that should have been handled the way we handled it. I think in future, all programmes should emanate from the community, and then the Government should facilitate the communities; it should not be top down; it should be from down up. We will then get people to do things. What happened was that this was a dictation from above rather than the people being given the opportunity to decide what was really good for them. That was really where the problem is."
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