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    "id": 177108,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/177108/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Dr. Mwiria",
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        "legal_name": "Valerian Kilemi Mwiria",
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    "content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, the surprising thing about Parliament and the demands by Kenyans is that they want universities, but at the same time, they do not want institutions to be converted into universities. They ask questions regarding conversion and then, later on, they say it is not a good thing. I do agree with that. That is why we must reach a compromise. The compromise is such that even as we convert these institutions into constituent colleges we are hoping that the institutions will retain their unique character of training diploma and certificate students while we have a component of a university as part of the institutions. So, I agree with the hon. Member that we cannot forget the hundreds and thousands of children who do not make it to the universities. Let us also give them an alternative. Let us give them that opportunity at institutions that can also offer degree programmes."
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