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"speaker_name": "Mr. Michuki",
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"content": " Mr. Temporary Deputy Chairman, Sir, could the proposer of this amendment explain further because, to say that there is unwanted conduct, you would have to prove that it is unwanted. At the same time, if that unwanted conduct leads to violating that other person's dignity, then in any serious court of law - I am not a lawyer - then he would have to show what dignity that person has. He will have to prove the existence of dignity. Again, that is a very serious matter that is difficult to prove. Could the hon. Member explain to us what it is all about because how do we get to define these words?"
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