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    "id": 182505,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Ms. Karua",
    "speaker_title": "The Minister for Justice, National Cohesion and Constitutional Affairs",
    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Martha Wangari Karua",
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    "content": " Mr. Chairman, Sir, I oppose this particular amendment. If you look at the way the commissioners will be appointed, they are wholly being appointed by a process outside the Executive. When naming the chairperson, the Executive is restricted to the persons appointed. So, there is no way that the appointment can undermine--- I am pleading with hon. Members, once again, to focus on the institution. When the Committee was adding the Kenyan component, from four to six, it was a question of ownership. So, when the Executive appoints the chair, it is, again, a part of ownership by the nation. That is a harmless provision and I would urge the Committee to let it stand. Mr. Chairman, Sir, I also wish to draw the attention of hon. Members to Clause 11(2). When the President has appointed the chairperson from among the commissioners who are nominated by Parliament and the Panel of Eminent African Personalities, the chairperson then, convenes the commission within seven days. When that arrangement is destroyed by this amendment, it means that the commission will have nobody to convene it. That has not been thought out by the Committee. It then paralyses the commission because none of them will be a chairman capable of convening. I would urge the Committee to withdraw this amendment and to let the clause stand as it is. Let us recognise our institutions. There is no way the credibility or the independence of the commission can be undermined when the appointment is restricted to among the members already appointed. So, I beg to oppose."
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