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    "id": 183994,
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    "speaker_name": "Maj-Gen. Nkaisserry",
    "speaker_title": "The Assistant Minister, Ministry of State for Defence",
    "speaker": {
        "id": 192,
        "legal_name": "Joseph Kasaine Ole Nkaissery",
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    "content": " Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, unfortunately, some of my colleagues have to learn to listen. They have to be patient. In communication, listening is better than talking. It is very important that they listen to what I want to say. What I am trying to say is that the Government has to create a policy. I am supporting this Motion, but I am not supporting the Motion for Budalangi. I am supporting the Motion in terms of how the Government can address natural disasters. Budalangi is one of the pilot areas which, as a Government, we should take up. We should dyke the Nzoia River. We should build dams to be used to produce electricity. But let us not narrow ourselves. Let us not de-link ourselves and leave behind the Tana Delta and Kajiado people. Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, take an example of the Maasai Mara, it is the most beautiful soil that God ever gave the people of this world. However, look at the levels of encroachment! I agree with my colleagues when they talk about corruption. It is not the October 15, 2008 PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES 2747 Government which is corrupt. Corruption is part and parcel of the population. It is in-built in the Kenyan society. If you are not corrupt then I cannot be corrupt. If you do not give, I will not take. But if you give, I will take! We are both corrupt. So, how do we deal with this situation? We should not come out and condemn the Government as if it has done nothing. There is a policy which the Ministry of Water and Irrigation is putting in place. I agree that we need to have a disaster management team to address all these issues. It should address the issues of earth quakes and floods. I disagree with this Motion on the issue of legal drafting. The Government is not negligent. You should have said that the Government needed to have put in place a plan or policy to address natural disasters. I would like to ask the mover of this Motion to prove that the Government is negligent in the case of floods in Budalangi or Mandera. This is a natural disaster. Rains come this morning and blow everything in Nairobi. In such a case, how is the Government negligent? You cannot pin the Government down on a natural disaster. It is an act of God! You cannot control God's action. We need to build capacity for any department that is in charge of natural disasters. I do not believe the Ministry of State for Special Programmes has the capacity to address issues of natural disasters. I think we need to have a specific department. We must have a fund to address the plight of natural disaster victims. That is when we can say whether the Government is negligent or the natural disasters were unforeseen. The Government will have funds to compensate for loss of property and life. However, we cannot come up and condemn the Government for negligence. This cannot be accepted and will not be accepted. With those few remarks, I beg to support."
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