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    "id": 185466,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/185466/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Mr. Nyagah",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Joseph Nthiga Nyagah",
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    "content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I wish to confirm that due to serious mismanagement, at the management and board levels in the past, this particular issue has been handled very casually. Nobody has taken the responsibility to face this issue squarely. Some have been threatened with death. Some have been bribed by these people. Some live in fear. That is why we said that, for the sake of the poor, we will, as a Ministry, face this issue squarely and people must pay. But we must also be practical. Our book keeping records are also poor at KPCU. We also have problems when we go to court. We have been defeated because we do not always have the appropriate papers to defend our position. That is why as a former banker, I have recommended that we sit down with these people to see the possibility of reviewing the principal and part of the interest so that we can recover as much as is practically possible. That is what banks do and for the period the KPCU got into this mess, it was acting like a coffee bank."
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