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    "speaker_name": "Mrs. Shebesh",
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        "legal_name": "Rachel Wambui Shebesh",
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    "content": "Unlawful groupings, Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker. I would want to call upon them to look at this Committee that is being set up by Parliament as the bridge that they need to cross over to the lawful side. I would want them to give us a chance, as Members of Parliament who are elected from the grassroots, because I know that they have been frustrated. They are young people, who are frustrated and they might not necessarily welcome us. I would like to call upon them to open up dialogue with this Committee, because I believe that is why the Mover has brought this idea to the fore, to give the young people an opportunity to also talk and explain why they are in these groupings. I also want to talk about the issue of the police and what their role has been. We must be clear and candid about these discussions. We must not protect, at any time, players who have brought about these groupings. The police have had an impact in this. The way the police have dealt with these groupings has been to victimise them without looking into the issues that surround these groupings. I would like the police to also give us a chance, because they will use the law; probably, the police will be a hindrance to this Committee doing an effective job. So, I am calling upon the Minister of State for Provincial Administration and Internal Security and the Commissioner of Police to be of help to this Committee and not to be a hindrance. It is unfortunate that when we talk about these young people we only see the illegal side of them. We forget that most of these young people are unemployed. We do not deal with the issue of unemployment; instead we single out individuals amongst these groupings and make them heroes. What do I mean? I mean, for example, that when an individual disappears from a slum, for instance in Nairobi, and the whole community takes up placards to demand the release of that particular young person, who has been arrested, and the police keep quiet, then that person disappears forever, what have we created? We have created a hero, whose leadership position another young person will want to take up. So, when we think we are dealing with it the way we are dealing with it as the police, we are actually encouraging heroes to come and fight for a cause they are not aware of themselves. We are dealing with it through extrajudicial killings and arrests that cannot be explained; this is really a problem. We must not give too much attention to the way we are dealing with this; instead, we should give attention to how we are going to rehabilitate them. Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, we must also protect the human rights of individuals in this country, irrespective of what we consider them to be. If today I"
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