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    "id": 188514,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/188514/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Mr. Kiilu",
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    "speaker": {
        "id": 45,
        "legal_name": "Peter L. N. Kiilu",
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    "content": ". If the Government fails to provide chai, somebody else will be required to do so, and that person is the client. This is a den for corruption. So, Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, in order to curb this corruption, the Ministry must July 23, 2008 PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES 2071 provide sufficient funds to enable the Land Registrar to pay these elders. The other unit at the district-level is the District Lands Tribunals. The Government had good intentions for setting up land tribunals. These tribunals were set up to facilitate arbitration of land in a cost-effective manner, but again, the same problem of lack of funding betrays the Ministry's good intentions. There are elders who have sat in those tribunals for the last five years or so, but they have not been paid their allowances. So, really, do we expect these elders, who are performing a quasijudicial function, to give a free service? Definitely, the answer is \"no\". Most of the time, their decisions have had to be challenged in court. If they are not facilitated, they will have to engage in corruption. The weaker person would be denied justice if the elders are not facilitated. Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, these are things we, as leaders, have to say. I would like the Ministry to be serious. It should either disband these tribunals and tell the people to go to court or facilitate these elders, so that they can do their job knowing that they will be paid or compensated for the time they spend while going through these matters. So, if the Ministry can look into those issues, I am sure, that some of the land management issues at the local level will be addressed. With those few remarks, I beg to support the Ministry's Budget."
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