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    "id": 188995,
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    "speaker_name": "Mr. K. Kilonzo",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Julius Kiema Kilonzo",
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    "content": "On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. The issue we are seeking clarification on has nothing to do with the issues that NSSF has gone to court on. That is because NSSF has already transferred the title deed to Delta. That is not in dispute. What is in dispute, like the Minister has just said, is the price. They want to know who is going to give back and who is not 1948 PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES July 17, 2008 going to do that. We are not interested in that because that is a matter for the court to decide. What we are asking is: Why is it that NSSF did not follow the procedure its abided to in the first place, which was go to an arbitrator? That has nothing to do with the matter before the court. Secondly, could the Minister confirm to this House that even before the NSSF had received the money, it had transferred the title deed to Delta? That has nothing to do with the court."
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