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    "speaker_name": "Mr. M. Kilonzo",
    "speaker_title": "The Minister for Nairobi Metropolitan Development",
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    "content": " On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I would like to be of assistance, with your permission. Would I be in order to suggest that the principles of sub judice refer to the merits or demerits of a case? Would I also be in order in advising the honourable Chamber that the word \"corruption\" when used with regard to a court matter, suggests that there is some irregularity and, therefore, goes to merits and demerits? Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, secondly, would I be in order to suggest that in order to protect the hon. Minister, and I think it is the practice of this House, if I may say so, because I have seen it myself, to require the plaint, that is, the actual document filed in court as well as the defence, to be availed to Mr. Speaker, so that as the Chair considers its ruling, it knows, for sure, the actual issues before the court. If it is possible to help the hon. Members who are raising these issues, you may do so, failure to which you will rule that it is sub judice, because it goes to the very nature of the integrity of this Chamber not to interfere with matters before court."
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