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"speaker_name": "Mr. Musyoka",
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"content": " Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I rise on a point of order under Standing Order No.21 which reads as follows: \"A Member who wishes to postpone to some future occasion the further discussion of a question which has been proposed from the Chair, may claim to move that the debate be now adjourned.\" Further to the earlier point that I had raised and now that this Motion has been moved and seconded, I want, in the larger interest of this nation, and in order to give the Government side an opportunity to thoroughly prepare its response to this Motion, to urge that we adjourn this debate until tomorrow afternoon. It is obvious that there will be need for the Government to respond to this very crucial matter. I beg that there are volumes and volumes of information that I had earlier on indicated which will be of great importance to the hon. Members of this august House. So that we are not seen to be participating in mob justice, it is very important. I want to urge my colleagues to support this matter. The only difference is that this point of order that I have raised, will require a vote. Therefore, I want to demand that in the event the Chair feels that we cannot positively rule on this matter, then the House should actually vote on it to enable us to prepare so that we can respond. As the Prime Minister himself pointed out, there is need for this Government and the country to delve deep into the issues that hon. Dr. Khalwale, who calls himself the bull fighter has raised. I refer to him as an honourable colleague - I had something to do with his bull fighting habits--- I want to suggest, so that he is not just seen as a bull fighter, but also as a Kimunya fighter, that, at least, we be able to relax through this important matter. I am sure that the hon. Minister himself might want to shed light on these issues. In all fairness, like my learned friend hon. Namwamba said, we do not need to guillotine hon. Kimunya. Nobody should be really crucified unheard. This is a basic law of natural justice. I do not think that hon. Kimunya, who might have walked into this Chamber today thinking that we were going to have the matter adjourned until tomorrow afternoon, will have adequately prepared his defence. I quite agree with Mr. Imanyara that certainly it is not the business of this Government to emasculate this House. Therefore, the principle of separation of powers is one principle which is a cornerstone in terms of the rule of law and which we want to uphold in the country. There is, therefore, no attempt on the part of the Government side to want to interfere with the smooth operation of the supreme organ which is this national Assembly. However, in all fairness, now that we have heard the Mover and the Seconder, I want to suggest that we ventilate over the substance of the contribution by the two honourable colleagues and tomorrow afternoon this matter will come before this House. It is, in fact, in the interest of Mr. Kimunya and this country that we dispose of this Motion, latest by tomorrow. This is because we are talking about the integrity of a Government Minister. Indeed, the integrity of the entire Government is actually at stake. It is only fair that the country is given a fair balance of information. That is what the Government intends to do, so that even as we vote on the substantive Motion tomorrow, we do so, from a point of knowledge. We will do so from a point of information and not disinformation as, perhaps, we will be able to prove on this side tomorrow. With those few remarks, I beg to move."
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