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    "speaker_name": "Mr. Lesrima",
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        "legal_name": "Simon Saimanga Lesirma",
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    "content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, I agree with the hon. Member. When I am answering this Question, I am not saying that Turkana District is occupied by purely Turkanas and Pokot District is occupied by purely Pokots. In fact, it is the boundaries of the two districts which is actually in dispute rather than the communities living in the districts. I also agree with him that, in fact, pastoralists do not pursue boundary issues unless they are hiding something else there. For example, as I speak now, members of the two districts are, indeed, grazing in my district. So, I understand those issues. As to the question of what we are going to do to ensure that people live in harmony, the Office of the President has a department that deals with peace and reconciliation. That is why, in my original answer, I mentioned that we need to strengthen peace committees even in preparation of going to the ground. The two districts are now disputing the issue of the boundaries. This becomes critical only when there are certain resources that are in dispute. In this particular case, if we were to be open, there is an issue as to who should benefit from the Turkwel Gorge. That is one of the issues. With the new district coming in place, each side is trying to see who should benefit more. The best thing is to identify the beacons and discuss how the natural resource can be shared. With regard to grazing, if they establish grazing committees, then we can deal with the question of moving from one district to another in search of pasture."
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