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    "id": 19573,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Mr. Wetangula",
    "speaker_title": "The Minister for Foreign Affairs",
    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Moses Masika Wetangula",
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    "content": "On the issue of the composition of the Board, while it is as good as everybody says that people possess degrees, but we have a lot of qualified Kenyans who do not have degrees, but have gone through education properly and can be very just in the discharge of their responsibilities and duties on a matter as important as this. I would want as to leave it open so that while you have university graduates on the Board, there are Kenyans out there, very able men and women who through the school public opinion, through the school of public experience, can be very valuable to a Board like this. They can tell just from unjust. They can tell wicked behaviour from good behaviour. Therefore, let us give them opportunities to serve on this Board. The majority of people in this country are eager to serve although they do not have degrees. We have looked at the teaching fraternity. We have very able teachers who have gone through approved process to become head teachers without degrees and they have done wonderful jobs. We also know we have graduates who do horrible jobs. We have graduates who cannot even explain themselves. We have graduates who do not even appreciate facts. So, let us leave it open to many Kenyans. If the Chairman of the Board is a judge, and that is why as a colleague lawyer, you know very well that when we have been doing murder trials, a judge sits with assessors, who are none lawyers, none degree holders, but they help to come up with very just decisions. Look at the trial by the jury in the United States of America, those members of the jury are not chosen on the basis of their degrees. They are chosen on the basis of their integrity, and the capacity and ability to appreciate and differentiate between guilt from innocence and then pass correct decisions. I want to urge the Minister to consider that point and see that we have a mix of those who are well educated with degrees, and those Kenyans who did not have the opportunities many of us had, but are available to serve this country."
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