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    "id": 196463,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/196463/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Ms. Shabesh",
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    "speaker": {
        "id": 377,
        "legal_name": "Rachel Wambui Shebesh",
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    "content": "Thank you, Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker. I rise to support this Motion. I am truly grateful that this Motion has been brought to this House by a youthful Member of Parliament. The reason for saying this is because in Nairobi, the issue of plastics has become one of job creation to the young people of this country. Where I come from, Kasarani, young people have used garbage collection as a way of creating employment for themselves. I support this Motion. However, I will be begging the Mover of this Motion to ensure that young people are made part and parcel of the recycling process of plastic paper. Why do I say this? This is because we could solve a problem and create another. We already have a big problem of 484 PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES April 16, 2008 unemployment and we do not want to create unemployment again by giving big companies the opportunity to build big factories to do the recycling. That will be creating employment where there was already some employment. I have said that passionately, because I hear hon. Members talking about \"flying toilets\" in the slum areas. \"Flying toilets\" are really the toilets for the people living in the slum areas. The moment we will have dealt with this issue, we will be creating another problem of toilets in the slum areas. Therefore, if we do not involve the local authorities in the implementation of this Bill, in terms of creating facilities for the people who live in the slums, we will create another problem. I would like to tell the Mover of this Motion that there must be intensive consultation among those who will draft the Bill, the Ministry of Local Government and among the city and municipal councils of areas where we have slums especially in urban areas. The people in these areas use plastic paper as a toilet facility. Therefore, we cannot rush to put any kind of measures against the use of plastics when we have not solved the problem which is critical and which has forced them to be creative in using plastic paper as a means of sanitation. Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, the Jua Kali Sector falls under the Kenya Private Sector Association (KEPSA). Many jua kali artisans use plastic as a means of packing their product. Really, this is where they make their money from. Again, I would like to ask the Mover of this Motion to consult the Jua Kali Sector on the real effects of this Bill to the livelihoods of those who are in the sector. We should ensure that we do not create a problem for the woman who sells"
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