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    "speaker_name": "Ms. Karua",
    "speaker_title": "The Minister for Justice and Constitutional Affairs",
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        "legal_name": "Martha Wangari Karua",
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    "content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, we can conquer the problems we have. Sometimes, when there is civil unrest, you can conquer it through the use of might, or state apparatus. However, I do not think you can use state apparatus and force to remove bitterness and hate in peoples' hearts. You can only negotiate and win the people back. That is why I am saying, maybe, it is not \"legally correct\" in terms of the law and jurisprudence that we have read, but it is absolutely necessary for our times. I want to end by saying that it is time to make hard choices that require courage for the sake of our country. The way has been paved for us by our leaders. I also want to say that there has been a lot of talk about the help from our friends, which I want to acknowledge, especially from the African Union. This help was received without any threats or coercion. I want to also acknowledge the help from the West, with reservations about their threats and coercion."
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