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    "id": 203629,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/203629/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Prof. Oniang'o",
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    "speaker": {
        "id": 363,
        "legal_name": "Ruth Khasaya Oniang'o",
        "slug": "ruth-oniango"
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    "content": "Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. Just like the previous speaker, I wish to oppose this amendment. The reason being that we have not even passed the ICT Bill. Many times, when you go to be served by computers in this country, you are told they are \"down\". So, clearly, we do not have the capacity. We have not invested in this capacity. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, we are also aware that in overseas countries, cyber crimes and identity thefts increased when they went the electronic way, away from the print way. We are talking about well developed countries! We are talking about Kenya here, where we know that people can fiddle with those electronic machines, when the rest of Kenyans do not even know what is going on! So, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I do not have to dwell on this issue. I do not know why this amendment has come now. We need to put into place proper laws. Right now, if you are accused of a cyber crime, you cannot be charged in any court. You will get away with it! That means Kenyans can even lose their money. This country can lose its money internally, without the offender being charged. So, we need to be assured that those other Bills will be passed here and that, there will be proper legislation to actually charge and prosecute cyber crimes before we can actually support this Bill. With those few remarks, I beg to oppose."
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